Here is the transcript of a speech I gave to the New South Wales Energy Forum on 19 July. Unfortunately it was by Zoom and not in person…
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Good afternoon, and thank you for inviting me to speak today about the practical realities of the energy transition and what lessons we can draw from the experiences in Australia, Britain and elsewhere.
Electricity systems don’t respond to political ambition or financial models. They respond to the laws of physics. These are not laws that politicians can repeal!
Let me be clear at the outset: I do not believe the energy transition, as currently conceived, is sensible. I’m not against cleaner energy, technological progress or reducing genuine environmental harm. Nor do I believe that the electricity system should remain frozen in the form it took fifty years ago.
But replacing reliable, energy-dense generation with large volumes of intermittent wind and solar is a poor use of both capital and natural resources. It requires us to build far more generating capacity than we need, duplicate it with dispatchable capacity for periods when the weather does not co-operate, expand the network to connect increasingly remote and dispersed assets, and then procure additional equipment and services to replace the essential electrical characteristics lost when synchronous power stations close.
This isn’t an elegant transition from an old system to a better one. It’s the construction of several overlapping systems, at enormous cost, in an attempt to reproduce the reliability we already had.
Britain is presented as a success because coal, which supplied around 40% of our electricity little more than a decade ago, has disappeared from the power system, while offshore wind has grown rapidly. In fact the choice to move away from coal had nothing to do with environmental concerns – coal started to run out just as North Sea gas was discovered and a switch between them was economically rational.
Had we discovered coal when gas was running out we would have made the opposite choice and we’d be crying about the emissions now.
But this fuel switching decision and the subsequent choice to replace gas with wind and solar does not tell us whether the policy was rational or the resulting system secure. Installed capacity is not dependable capacity, annual production is not production when electricity is needed, and a megawatt hour is not the only thing a power station provides. Policymakers have counted visible inputs while overlooking total system performance and cost.
The central problems are intermittency, energy density and trying to force direct current technologies onto alternating current grids.
Wind farms generate when the wind blows and solar panels generate when the sun shines, regardless of the level of demand.
In Britain, we tend to talk about cold, dark and still winter weather. Demand is high, wind output can remain low for days, the solar contribution is meagre and it disappears altogether before the evening peak. That’s a serious problem, but it isn’t the only weather pattern that matters.
Australia’s more obvious challenge is heat, particularly heat combined with still air. When temperatures soar, air-conditioning demand surges. At exactly the same time, a stationary high-pressure system can suppress wind generation across a very large area.
Solar may produce strongly in the middle of the day, but it ramps down far faster than people expect, and extreme heat itself reduces the efficiency of solar panels. Demand doesn’t disappear when the sun begins to set.
Europe has faced the same combination this summer: intense heat, weak wind output and high cooling demand. On 23 June, Britain came uncomfortably close to power shortages as demand exceeded the system operator’s forecast and available reserves became dangerously low.
The control room curtailed exports and there are now whistleblower allegations that the grid was insecure and the system operator’s management has been covering it up. Investigations are underway after questions were asked in Parliament.
Elsewhere in Europe, high river temperatures forced cuts to nuclear output over reduced access to cooling water, and low river levels have restricted coal deliveries to thermal power stations.
Heat also increases line losses and losses from transformers. Thermal power stations are also less efficient: the entire grid has to run faster just to stand still. Transformers are also harder to cool, increasing the risk of equipment failure.
So whether the critical event is a cold, dark and windless winter evening or a hot, still summer evening, the underlying requirement is the same. The system has to meet demand continuously, not merely on average and not merely when the weather is helpful.
This is why claims that wind and solar are the cheapest forms of electricity are so misleading. They may have a low marginal cost when they happen to generate but consumers don’t buy isolated megawatt hours at the gate of a wind farm. They buy a reliable electricity service, delivered at the right voltage and frequency every second of the year.
The relevant cost isn’t simply the cost of the wind turbine or the solar panel. It’s the cost of the whole system: generation, backup, storage, transmission, distribution, balancing, constraint management, reserve and stability services.
If wind and solar replace dispatchable generation, what supplies the system during a prolonged period of low renewables output? If dispatchable generation has to remain available, then it hasn’t really been replaced – we’ve simply built another generating fleet alongside it and forced the original fleet to recover its costs over fewer running hours.
That makes the dispatchable capacity less economic, even as it becomes more important to security of supply.
The inefficient use of capital is matched by an inefficient use of physical resources. Wind and solar have low energy density and relatively low capacity factors, so producing a given quantity of electricity requires large numbers of machines spread across very large areas. Each machine needs steel, concrete, copper and other minerals.
Offshore wind also requires extensive foundations and undersea cables, while solar consumes land, glass, aluminium and network equipment.
Batteries add further demand for processed minerals, yet most grid batteries store only a few hours of output. That can be extremely useful for rapid response or for moving some solar generation into the early evening. But a battery that can discharge for two or four hours isn’t a solution to several days of low wind.
All these materials have to be mined, refined, manufactured, transported and eventually disposed of or recycled. Much of the mining and processing takes place in countries with weaker environmental safeguards and poor labour protections. We call the final electricity clean because we choose not to count the damage elsewhere in the supply chain.
There’s an extraordinary asymmetry in this debate. The environmental impacts of fossil fuels and nuclear power are examined in minute detail, as they should be. But the land take, mineral intensity, habitat disruption and waste associated with wind, solar, batteries and thousands of kilometres of new transmission are too often treated as incidental. We’ve confused low carbon at the point of generation with low environmental impact overall.
There’s also a deeper electrical-engineering problem. Generating electricity and operating an electricity system aren’t the same thing. A large synchronous generator does far more than simply produce energy – it contributes inertia, fault current, voltage support and system strength because of its fundamental physical characteristics.
Historically, those services arrived bundled with the electricity, so markets didn’t need to value them separately and policymakers barely noticed them.
Wind turbines, solar panels and batteries connect through inverters and don’t behave in the same way. Once synchronous generators retire, the system operator has to procure services that were previously broadly free. We replace the energy, and then we pay again to replace the engineering characteristics of the plant we displaced.
So a system can have far more installed generating capacity than it could ever realistically need and still be insecure, because capacity isn’t the same as capability. If the output is in the wrong place, arrives at the wrong time or can’t support the network during a disturbance, its nameplate rating is irrelevant.
Britain shows how these costs accumulate. Our transmission network was designed largely around dispatchable power stations built near established industrial centres. It’s now being reconfigured to connect weather-dependent resources dispersed around the country and far offshore, often hundreds of kilometres from the largest centres of demand. That requires enormous investment in new lines, substations and subsea cables.
Yet building more network doesn’t abolish constraints when generation is developed faster than the infrastructure required to transport its output. On windy days Britain can have too much electricity in northern Scotland and not enough grid capacity to move it south.
The system operator then pays wind farms to reduce output while paying gas plant elsewhere to increase output. Consumers therefore pay twice – for the electricity they actually use from the gas power station and the electricity they don’t use from the windfarm.
Britain’s constraint and balancing costs have risen sharply, while the range of ancillary services required to keep the grid secure has expanded. Synchronous condensers are being installed to provide inertia, voltage support and fault current without producing electricity.
Gas power stations are sometimes instructed to run for stability even when their energy isn’t needed. Batteries are paid to provide rapid frequency response. Each intervention may be technically sound, but together they expose the friction that wind and solar introduce to the grid.
Nor does storage solve the fundamental problem. Batteries are excellent at responding quickly and can be valuable for frequency management, short-duration balancing and moving some solar output from the middle of the day into the evening.
But the challenge in a renewable-heavy system isn’t merely a five-minute mismatch. It can be a multi-day or even multi-week period of low wind, sometimes accompanied by unusually high demand.
Providing enough battery capacity to bridge such periods would require a huge overbuild of generation to charge it, an immense quantity of minerals and capital, and storage assets that might be called upon only occasionally. Their economics are difficult precisely because the strategic reserve we most need must sit idle much of the time.
Pumped hydro can provide longer-duration storage where geography allows, but suitable sites are limited. Hydrogen remains inefficient, expensive and largely unproven as a route for storing electricity at power-system scale.
The Iberian blackout in April 2025 revealed the physical risks behind these economic distortions. The initial public reaction divided along familiar tribal lines. Renewable advocates insisted that wind and solar had nothing to do with the collapse, while critics described it as definitive proof that renewables could never be operated securely. The detailed reality is both more complicated and more important.
The disturbance involved voltage instability, inadequate dynamic voltage control, protection behaviour and the failure of inverter-based generation to remain connected as required. More than eight gigawatts of inverter-based resources disconnected within seconds, including installations that should have ridden through the fault conditions.
With relatively little synchronous generation online, the system couldn’t arrest the cascade and the Iberian Peninsula went dark.
The lesson isn’t simply that the system lacked inertia. Inertia has become a convenient catch-all whenever a grid disturbance occurs, but synchronous machines also provide short-circuit current and voltage stiffness. These characteristics interact, particularly during faults, and they can’t safely be reduced to a single metric.
Iberia demonstrated the difference between compliance on paper and performance in the real world. An inverter may be certified against a grid-code model and still respond differently when exposed to a complex disturbance involving both voltage and frequency changes across a weak network.
Protection settings designed for a system dominated by large rotating machines may also behave unpredictably as fault currents become smaller and less familiar. Simulations and certificates are valuable, but neither is a substitute for demonstrated behaviour under credible system conditions.
The blackout also illustrates the danger of normalisation of deviance. As synchronous generation falls and inverter-based penetration rises, system operators may repeatedly operate closer to boundaries that would once have been considered uncomfortable. Most days nothing catastrophic happens, and each successful day is then treated as evidence that the reduced margin was safe.
But the absence of failure isn’t proof of resilience. It may simply mean the system hasn’t yet encountered the disturbance capable of exposing its weakness. It’s a bit like thinking running out in traffic is safe because you did it a few times and lived to tell the tale.
Electricity networks operate in milliseconds, not annual averages. They must survive the wrong fault in the wrong place on the wrong day. Iberia had abundant generation before the blackout but it lacked the ability to keep that generation connected and the system stable when conditions deteriorated.
Australia is especially important because it’s further along this path than almost any other country. The National Electricity Market spans thousands of kilometres and incorporates some of the world’s highest penetrations of rooftop solar. South Australia has already experienced periods when inverter-based resources supplied almost all local demand, while conventional generators have progressively retired or reduced their running hours.
AEMO and the network businesses deserve credit for being more candid than many policymakers about the resulting engineering challenge. Their work on system strength, minimum synchronous generation, fault levels and protection acknowledges that adding megawatts of renewable capacity doesn’t automatically add the capabilities required to operate a secure network.
The installation of synchronous condensers in South Australia is perhaps the clearest physical expression of this reality. These are large rotating machines that consume capital and resources but produce no electricity. They’re installed solely to restore some of the inertia, fault current, voltage support and system strength lost when synchronous power stations are removed.
Technically, that may be the correct response to the system policy has created. Economically, however, we should ask why consumers are being required to pay for wind and solar generation, dispatchable backup, major network expansion and synchronous machines whose purpose is to recreate services previously provided by the generators being displaced. If a supposedly cheaper technology requires an entire supporting architecture before it can be used securely, then it ceases to be cheap.
Grid-forming inverters are frequently presented as the eventual answer. Unlike conventional grid-following devices, they can establish a voltage and frequency reference rather than merely following one, and in controlled settings they can reproduce some behaviours associated with synchronous generation. The technology is promising and deserves serious investigation, but promise isn’t proof of equivalence.
Some designs revert towards grid-following behaviour during faults, precisely when grid-forming capability is required, and maintaining stable control becomes harder as current limits are reached.
Power electronics can’t produce unlimited fault current, and software-controlled responses introduce interactions that aren’t yet fully understood at system scale. It would be reckless to retire proven synchronous capability today on the assumption that future inverter controls will reliably reproduce all of it tomorrow.
This is where engineering judgement has to confront political ideology. Engineers can devise ways to make a renewable-heavy grid more stable, just as they can solve many difficult problems if they’re given enough time, equipment and money. But the fact that a problem can be mitigated doesn’t mean it was rational to create it. Technical feasibility isn’t the same as economic wisdom.
We’re deliberately building generation that breaks the engineering logic of our electricity grids and this is forcing us to spend $billions on correcting the problems introduced by that generation. When we pay $billions in subsidies to build it in the first place, that adds insult to economic injury.
We could build vast networks, enormous quantities of storage, synchronous condensers, grid-forming batteries and fleets of underused gas stations held in reserve. The relevant question is whether doing so produces a better outcome than investing directly in reliable, energy-dense generation such as nuclear, hydro where geography supports it, and modern gas generation. Those technologies can supply electricity when it’s required while contributing many of the essential characteristics the network needs.
Policy has focused on the cost of carbon while neglecting the cost of complexity, duplication and fragility. Governments count installed renewable capacity because it’s visible and politically convenient, but consumers don’t care how many gigawatts have been connected. They care whether the lights come on, whether their bills are affordable and whether industry can invest with confidence in a reliable supply.
A system that occasionally produces an excess of very cheap electricity but requires billions in subsidies, networks, balancing and backup isn’t genuinely cheap. A system that meets an emissions target by closing domestic industry and importing manufactured goods hasn’t eliminated environmental harm. It has exported both the emissions and the jobs. Energy policy should be judged by its effects on human welfare and economic resilience, not by the elegance of its targets.
A more rational approach would begin with the outcome the electricity system must deliver: secure and affordable power at all times, with environmental impacts assessed across the whole supply chain. Technologies should then compete on their contribution to that outcome, including availability, location, useful life, material requirements, network impacts and system services.
Firm power shouldn’t be treated as an embarrassing bridge to a weather-dependent future. It’s the foundation of an industrial economy. Nuclear power, gas and hydro each involve trade-offs, but they’re energy-dense, dispatchable or both. They require far less duplication than a system designed around intermittent output, and they preserve options while technologies evolve.
If I leave you with one thought today, it’s this: don’t think of the energy transition as the straightforward replacement of dirty generators with clean ones. It’s the replacement of a compact, dispatchable and electrically stable system with a larger, more resource-intensive and more complicated system that still depends on much of the infrastructure it was meant to supersede.
The objective shouldn’t be to complete an energy transition regardless of cost. It should be to build an energy system worthy of the people and industries that depend upon it.
Markets decide who gets paid. Governments may decide which technologies they want. But physics and engineering decide whether the system works, and economics ultimately decides how long society can afford to pretend otherwise.
Thank you.
Who paid your air fare?
Since when does using Zoom require an air fare?
Yeah, what an idiot – she obviously didn’t read your article, where, right up-front, you described your delivery was not in person . . . but via Zoom. So, because it was you, engineering and physics obviously being nowhere within her grasp, she attempted to attack you in an unbelievably childish manner, and, your immense knowledge of the subject was simply dismissed.
What an idiot.
And one of your best papers yet, Kathryn.
Colin Belshaw, FIMMM.
Thanks Colin. The “Who funds you” question is almost always a cheap shot to undermine my credibility. Fell flat here though – I wasn’t paid for the speech and no air fare required. Although if I did go to speak in Australia I would need someone to cover it!
Katheryn, thank you for continuing to make this stuff accessible to people both inside and outside the industry. Explaining inertia, fault current and system strength to a mixed audience without either dumbing it down to uselessness or losing them in jargon is a genuinely hard skill, and you do it well. Much appreciated.
Kathryn- Your speech sums it up perfectly.
Now that blockhead Millibean has gone for his hollibobs: Hopefully (!) you will have better luck explaining fundamental physics to our new energy secretary, Miatta Fahnbulleh. I’ve not heard her speak so far, and therefore I remain optimistically open-minded. – Sometimes a fresh brain is exactly what is needed – i.e. someone without the “Old Boys’ connections”, who will (hopefully) listen to well-reasoned expertise and mathematical logic.
Thank you once again for posting (for free!) exactly that.
I hope Miatta is reading and digesting this blog and gets in touch with you. Forget party politics- what Britain needs is policy grounded in fundamental science, engineering and economics. You uniquely command all three, plus the ability to communicate without bias – so you’d be the ideal consultant for an incoming energy minister of any political stripe.
Katheryn, thank you for continuing to make this stuff accessible to people both inside and outside of the industry. Explaining inertia, fault current and system strength to a mixed audience without either dumbing it down to uselessness or losing them in jargon is a genuinely hard skill, and you do it well. Much appreciated.
Hi Kathryn, thank you for providing sensible and clear information that even politicians, economists and rule makers should be able to understand. Apart from the subsidy you mention, here in the NEM, there is another somewhat hidden subsidy that wind and solar farms benefit from. Semi scheduled wind and solar are given the right to produce up to the level of output that the variable fuel allows, be it significantly up or down from their own 5-minute forecast without consequence. The system then must rely on synchronous generation and battery storage to account for the rapid differences in supply/demand imbalances. This uses up the primary frequency control and frequency control and ancillary services purchased by the system operator to make sure frequency remains within the normal operating band, even following contingency events. Often this leads the system operator having to purchase more of the services, at a cost to consumers.What if instead, the semi-scheduled generators were treated equally with synchronous generators and be measured on actual output against forecast? Semi scheduled generators could do this by only committing to a lower percentage of their output forecast, or they can pay battery storage facilities to provide additional short-term output (charge/discharge) to account for any over/underperformance. That way, their true cost of producing reliable output factors in the real cost to the generator, irrespective of fuel source.
Ms Porter,
what is relevant is the need to decarbonise even required?
While there is the ‘consensus’ that there is, this is not scientific and there are very many opposing views in the scientific world by some of the most experienced and respected climate scientists.
A web site you may like to view, that has sensible and creditable information on climate is :- Watts up with that.com
Another organisation is Clintel.org which is very critical of the science put out from the IPCC.
This is how science works, a hypothesis is produced and others review, criticise and try and replicate research. This is real science and the data must match the hypothesis. The CO2 hypothesis does not match the data.
Much of the CO2 science is based on modelling, which has simply produced results warmer than actual real world temperatures. This error has magnified with time, which should have produced a revision of the models, but has not.
Kathryn can speak for herself, of course, but I think she is very sensibly restricting her analyses to the area of her expertise rather than commenting on something – climate change and its causes – where she does not have expertise.
One key reason we are in this mess is because climate scientists have failed to restrict their activities to seeking to understand how the climate is changing and why but instead have chosen to promote – vigorously – one particular approach to coping with a changing climate. How we respond to climate change, if at all, is a political decision that involves massive economic and lifestyle repercussions. These trade-offs are for the people to divide following a proper, democratic debate. Our current generation of politicians is not allowing this debate to occur and, at some point, they will be rejected from office for their anti-democratic behaviour.
Iain Reid,
These are the most ignorant comments I have read in sometime.
The influence of CO2 in warming the atmosphere has been settled science since Arrhenius’s paper in 1896, the predictions of which are pretty much in line with modern forecasts and the reality we are all living through.
Best wishes
Michael
Have you never wondered by Arrhenius’ forecasts were largely ignored for the next century? It was because at that time global temperature was declining and continued to decline for another 20 years, despite rising CO2. Arrhenius’ could not explain this. Rising temperature trends and falling trends followed. During the 1980s the accepted science said the world was heading for the next glaciation.
Alan Bland,
Alan Bland, You seem to be unaware of the work of Guy Callendar who in 1937 pointed out that the temperature of the Earth was rising and that the cause was carbon dioxide pollution.
https://protonsforbreakfast.wordpress.com/2021/02/21/guy-callendar-precis-of-his-foundational-paper-on-global-warming/
You really need to educate yourself. Best wishes: Michael
Sadly I think that any attempt to actual use well established science in these comments is doomed to failure. Ms Porter’s fan club are a rather sad collection whose response is more emotional than factual. Ms. Porter herself has found a certain success as the ‘expert’ spokesperson on energy matters provided said matters are helpful to the fossil fuel industries.
MdeP:
CO2 does indeed “warm the atmosphere”. But there is no climate crisis caused by burning fossil fuels requiring Net Zero. Neither the history of CO2 and temperature, nor the science supports this theory. There is no (anthropogenic) CO2 explanation for the last ice age nor for the planet’s warming to exit. Or for why receding glaciers are revealing 7000 year-old tree stumps and 5000 year- old artefacts showing higher temperatures than today despite lower levels of CO2. In addition, the Antarctic Vostok ice core data shows that for the last 450,000 years, when both CO2 and temperature have both been exceptionally low, CO2 follows temperature (Henry’s Law) and not vice versa. Interestingly, Al Gore’s ‘An Inconvenient Truth’, shows the Antarctic Vostok ice core data graphs but doesn’t dare overlay the temperature and CO2 graphs so the audience cannot see how CO2 lags temperature….he just describes the relationship as “complicated”….Happer & Wijngaarden have demonstrated, using the IPCC’s own radiative warming theory, that there is already sufficient atmospheric CO2 to absorb all the IR radiation emitted by the planet that it can and hence adding more CO2 to the atmosphere adds little if any additional warming. A phenomenon known as saturation which is endorsed by The Royal Society. Shula & Ott have shown that the IPCC’s radiative warming theory is invalid because the IR radiation energy absorbed by the CO2 is lost through collisions with nitrogen and oxygen molecules before it lost through spontaneous emission. Water vapour, which is 10 to 100 times more abundant in the atmosphere than CO2 and absorbs far more of the planet’s IR radiation, is the main greenhouse gas which keeps us warm at the surface and radiates excess energy to space. This is in addition to the enormous effect on the climate caused by clouds, the formation of which is complicated by many factors, including those from space.
And can I add, that currently, today 29/7/26, there is almost a full moon and the wobble of the earths orbit (two-body behaviour) has put the earth closer to the sun at this stage in the orbit of the moon, hence the higher temperatures on this specific week, just as it was about 4 weeks ago…….1st July, hottest day of the year so far.
Also, it’s summer in the Northern hemisphere, and most of the other planets are on the sun side of earth, just helping a bit to pull the earth closer to the sun, or at least Jupiter isn’t on the same side of the Sun as the Earth, so isn’t helping to pull the Earth away from the Sun.
Why isn’t the data being controlled for the orbital fluctuations?
The nearest planets, Mars, Venus and Jupiter really do affect the orbit of the Earth (and their orbits are affected by the planets nearest to them).
So we have the Earth’s orbit slowing, the brakes are on, because we’ve got Venus rapidly catching up, which with the moon’s orbit both will make the Earth get closer to the Sun. Venus’s orbit will be speeding up a little as well.
I can’t think of another time when the Earth would get so much closer to the Sun than would normally occur.
Perhaps that’s why we’re at 35oC and not 23oC (normal summer temperature) again this week. Of course there are going to be temperature extremes, it’s the orbit…..far greater fluctuations than any “global warming”, so far.
We do get hotter, when the Earth gets closer to the Sun.
Bravo!
Fantastic presentation of the implications of policy implementation without regard to economics, engineering, proper carbon assessment and security of supply.
Always an easily digested, electricity dose of reality. Thanks Kathryn
Err – I don’t know if you have noticed but sunshine and wind are free? Perhaps that helps explain why renewable energy is popular?
Err – have you noticed that the machines and infrastructure to turn free wind and sun into electricity are actually very expensive??
“machines and infrastructure to turn free wind and sun into electricity are actually very expensive??
…as are the machines that turn gas into electricity. But those turbines must be fed with gas which (a) costs a lot of money and (b) destroys the climate our children reasonably expect us not to damage.
Gas generation is cheaper than wind and solar. However the comment was in response to someone who thinks wind and solar are free. No need to jump in with your anti-fossil fuel schtick
Kathryn Porter,
The “anti-fossil fuel schtick” is called science. And it’s in response to your “pro-fossil fuel schtick” that simply can’t accept the enormous benefits the UK obtains from wind and solar, and the need to go further.
You keep repeating that gas generation is cheaper than wind and solar, even though it is plainly just not true. If you repeat it 1000 times with a straight face maybe some people will believe you.
The simple truth is that you have no plan to minimise the future harm from Climate Change. When I have asked you before you say Nuclear Power is the answer – the slowest, most expensive electricity source on Earth! Good luck selling that idea.
Once upon a time burning gas for electricity was a good idea, but that is no longer true. Renewable technology has already helped the UK enormously and reduced our dependence on fossil fuels which is a major national security benefit.
Best wishes
Michael
It’s my website and you don’t get to police what I write on it.
Wind and solar ARE the most expensive forms of generation – it’s you that’s struggling to understand the economics and if you repeat your line 1000 times I’m going to start deleting your comments because I don;t allow spam.
The simple truth is that every country with high levels of wind and solar generation has either very high energy bills or high energy related taxes.
Fossil fuels are growing in use because they are better. They have high energy density, are not intermittent and are highly portable. FACT.
Nuclear is better still.
Wind and solar are not just an expensive waste of money they are an irresponsible use of natural resources
MdeP:
There is no energy security in putting all our energy eggs into a single basket, electrification, and where the infrastructure is spread over half the North Sea and consequently totally exposed and un-defendable, particularly from airborne and undersea drones. Neither is it secure to rely upon purchasing all our energy infrastructure (even the concrete for fixed offshore wind turbines) and electrical devices from China, a state our security services describe as “hostile”, and who subsidise the production using cheap coal power, slave labour and ignore all the environmental damage caused by mining and toxic manufacturing tailing lakes. And BTW, the ERoEI (Energy Return on Energy Invested) of solar panels is so low they cannot produce sufficient energy to replace themselves. Wind can just manage this but leaves very little energy left for any other uses. Only fossil fuels and nuclear have a sufficient high ERoEI for a civilised society.
Yes they’re free – untilt you want to turn them into electricity.
You’re luckier than most to have sunbeams magically power your toys. The rest of us mugs need them harvested, processed, transported hundred of miles through an increasingly complex system and fed into our own joints. Hats off to you, though. You’ve got the system beat.
Bravo! A complete, understandable explanation about how this fad is failing to provide any benefit to the people who need reliable, affordable electricity.
Reliable
Brilliant ! Sense at last
Excellent article….standing by for the UK power cuts.
Well, yet again following the read I find myself torn betwnn hope and hopless, Hard to realise that we the public have never had knowledge offfered to us as you do, as was stated on a utube vid ‘ that you should be the energy minister’ But that would let the cat truly out of the bag 1 Thank you for all that you allow us to learn, even the bad new.
The title of your article refers to only two of the three variables of the so-called “energy trilemma”, namely affordability and reliability. The nowadays seldom-mentioned third is sustainability, referring to decarbonisation of the economy.
The authorities pushing our ruinous unilateral Net Zero policies no longer pretend that they are “saving the planet” by decarbonisation. Their stated purpose of Net Zero is openly and absurdly reduced to achieving their own arbitrarily set legally binding emissions reduction targets.
Publicly available official publications such as the Energy Institute’s Statistical Review of World Energy and the UK government’s recent admission that the UK achieved a reduction of just 15% of net greenhouse gas emissions over the period 1996 to 2023 show clearly that Net Zero is pointless and unachievable, both globally and nationally here in the UK.
It is equally obvious that Net Zero is ruinously expensive as rigorously documented by energy analysist David Turver and is the cause of major ongoing deindustrialisation here in the UK. Energy analysts Richard Lyon and John Constable characterise the Net Zero reliance on unsustainable low-grade energy supplies as a catastrophically regressive policy which by the laws of physics is certain to lead to economic ruination.
So what on earth is stopping the authorities from admitting that the entire Net Zero endeavour has been a huge mistake which needs to be abandoned before any further damage is inflicted on our energy infrastructure and economy, especially as most of the rest of the world, now including the USA, clearly doesn’t give two hoots about it? I can only conclude that malign deep state influence is being brought to bear for some inscrutable unfathomable ulterior motive.
It is very frustrating that there is no honest public debate with those at the top of the establishment on their reasons for pursuing unilateral Net Zero.
The title was the event as a whole rather than just my speech. They didn’t give me a separate title
Kathryn,
I’ve watched you on YouTube several times and I congratulate you on getting these messages across with clarity. I’ve no doubt you will have upset the green zealots and have to withstand accusations of wrecking the path to net zero (that nirvana also called energy transition), or even more ludicrously, climate denial. We’re ruled by scientifically illiterate people and you are one of the few people trying to expose the social and economic dangers of the pathway to net zero. Keep going!
Kathryn, what an absolutely stonking presentation! I have never before seen such a comprehensive statement of the issues surrounding intermittent generation set out with such lucidity.
If only the true carbon and economic costs of wind and solar could be calculated by independent economists and laid bare for the world to see.
An excellent article.
It mentions that hydrogen is unproven at this scale.
Is Britain betting the house on having tens of Terawatt hours of hydrogen storage, stored in salt caverns in Yorkshire and other places?
The Royal Society talks about 60 TWh of storage to go Net Zero, and as far as I can see, Britain intends to do that with salt caverns.
Is this even remotely feasible, and if it is attempted, what will be the cost of failure?
“Wind farms generate when the wind blows and solar panels generate when the sun shines, regardless of the level of demand.”
Somehow you fail to include the fact that gas generators only generate when they have gas. And that the price of electricity in the UK has been determined by gas for last few years and left us punishingly vulnerable to crippling increases in electricity prices. The growth of renewable generation in the UK has saved the country millions in avoided costs burning gas.
Another easy to understand talk. If only you could have persuaded Johnson and Milliband to listen. I look forward to reading your next talk.
Such a wonderfully clear exposition.
Someone should stand up and deliver this speech in Parliament. Hopefully the new Energy Secretary.
Keep up the good work Kathryn.
The article mentions that hydrogen is untried at this scale.
It seems to me that NESO want to build tens of Terawatt hours of hydrogen storage in salt caverns.
Is this feasible?
Great speech setting out the options.
Excellent Excellent Excellent
Well done Kathryn
Having worked with the Electricity supply industry some while back I can relate so very well to your message
As an Applied Research Engineer I worked with the Electricity supply industry in ways to meet the challenges faced in an economic manner without the burden of massive over engineering on the supply side with some success. But not refined enough as it removed the cost onto the consumer
However we also, or at least I had having moved on, realised that multi fuel technologies, switchable by the generator, also gave us the options to reduce costs
I just hope that you can encourage the government to open up the discussion to look at ALL the options for decarbonisation based upon all the factors of the PESTLE Analysis
Kathryn, Your presentation is full of wisdom and common sense. Thank you.
Here is the recording on YouTube:
https://youtu.be/c73G3mbuhdE
We pay the international price for imported gas and yet we have the highest electricity price in the world for industrial use – which is closing down our energy intensive industries and killing our economy – yet the lie that the price of gas is to blame somehow survives. The real reason that our electricity is so expensive is that renewables are strongly encouraged by huge subsidies that are added to operating costs, paid for by customers, not the government. Most customers are totally unaware that their electricity bills are dominated by the capital subsidies offered to the renewables industry, whereas gas is penalised by carbon taxes.
Hi Kathryn, thanks for a useful summary of the issues. One aspect that I haven’t seen discussed anywhere is the different nature of these generators (and also modern loads) – unlike rotating machines they are not intrinsically Thevenin type generators. Are they effectively constant power devices? And modern loads – inverter air conditioners and much else – are often constant power rather than constant impedance. Would this introduce a negative resistance behavior into the system? If so, would this tend to reduce stability and promote a tendency towards oscillation? Any thoughts welcome – I’ve just about forgotten any electrical engineering knowledge that I ever had…
Callender expressed an opinion in 1937 that the rising temperature in 1937 was due to CO2, but from 1945 the temperature trend changed to cooling for the next 35 years. That’s when the scientific community became convinced the Earth was heading into the next ice age. I remember that clearly because I had just completed my M.Sc. So don’t insult me by suggesting I need educating.
Yes, we’ve not been too good on following the effects of orbital changes. Those messy chaotic changes that no one is talking about.
How it takes a few orbits for the Earth’s orbit to be slowly modified when dealing with the effects of Jupiter (much slower orbit than Earth’s) on Earth’s orbit, or more instantaneous effects of the moon (first), Mars and Venus (second).
We’re just about getting to the same temperature peak defined in the Medieval Warm Period.
Should start to cool again in the next few decades………oh dear, that’ll mess up their climate modelling won’t it.
Kathryn. As an engineer who believes in the laws of in Physics, I am fully in agreement with almost everything you have said. However, I must take issues with the statement
“In fact the choice to move away from coal had nothing to do with environmental concerns – coal started to run out just as North Sea gas was discovered and a switch between them was economically rational”.
The UK has literally reserves of billions of tonnes of high quality Steam raising coal. As an Opencast coal mining engineer, I personally know of 20 million tonnes of fully economic coal reserves that could be worked with 3 months should the nation need it.
No. In the 1980s it was considered that economically viable coal was running out and gas was a more viable option. SUBSEQUENTLY technology has improved making some coal mining economic again, but I was referring to the situation as it was seen in the 1980s-1990s when the coal to gas switching decisions were made
The UK and Australia have two things in common in the area of Climate Policies driving their energy transitions. 1) whether they succeed or fail will have statistically ZERO impact on GLOBAL CO2 emissions and 2) nobody is following what they are doing. In fact 92% of the world is actively proceeding in the opposite direction to both. Even New Zealand is seeking to increase dispatchable power generation. Nobody has been “influenced” by any UK government action in over 75 years. Perhaps it is time both UK and Australia politicians put their own countries economies as their primary concern. Nah, that would just make them feel really bad about what they have pushed for last 20 years. Can’t have that.
In the seventies coal investment eventually reached 29GW, more than enough to provide two-shifting support for base load running of nuclear resource. Two coal power stations had been brought forward under state direction. Engineering opinion under nationalisation favored more nuclear investment and the consortia I worked for was actively planning for three nuclear power stations, one being on the Moray coast. The government of the day thought otherwise, leading to the demise of the company, their headquarters eventually being taken over by Barclays bank.
With privatisation a market system was introduced that favored gas turbine development with short two-year timescales. The problem lay with half the gas used being dissipated upon conversion to electric power. This was long before fracking transformed gas exploitation and would have negated the reason for the EU deciding to promote renewable generation at the end of the first decade of this century.
Once gas turbines were underway the need for storage became obvious in order to avoid volatile pricing. Though intended, under political control it never happened with storage counted in days rather than months as on the continent. When the disaster of coal shutdown failed to be mothballed and with no storage being available the cost of electricity rose. Three other effects combined to realize the present impasse.
Firstly the subsidized payment for renewable generation is delayed until power is produced, becoming a creeping problem over time. Secondly with rising levels of renewable power, there are increased costs of intermittency and constraint payments. Finally and most seriously, is the imminent risk of an unstable grid system, having open-ended costs.
The lesson of history is for energy decisions to be made by engineers whose dominant perspective is one of supply security, Such practice was adopted when the pre-war transmission system was installed and again with post-war nationalisation.
That was a model of clarity with well-chosen and appropriate analogies.
Kathryn, from all of your comments about the problems with power distribution, losses due to heated equipment, with wires unable to take as much current, hotter transformers and other equipment taking more power as losses due to increasing resistance, really means that self-generation is the most efficient solution. Power not having to travel miles, so lower losses due to distance, and less current needed through the system components.
When they were putting all the wind farms out in the North Sea and in Scotland, were any calculations of power losses ever done, or did they assume that it’ll all be the same as before?
What a great summary of the issues. It would be good to see some quantification of the system-wide cost of energy delivered to consumers for an RE100 system vis-a-vis a RE-zero system – complete with full-system life-cycle CO2 analysis. Here in Australia, AEMO makes an effort but this effort is limited by the scenarios that they assume – which are limited to those that are consistent with government policy (rather than counterfactuals like RE-zero) – and which do not encompass full-system life-cycle CO2 analysis. The CO2 impact is, after all, the entire rationale for the energy transition and it would be nice to actually have a feel for the costs on a $/t of CO2 saved basis. It would be particularly aggravating if the full-system life-cycle CO2 of the RE100 system turned out to be higher than that of the RE-zero system due to the required RE generation overbuild, the batteries, the condensers, the transmission extensions, etc. We can but hope that we escape such a irony.