Yesterday I had the pleasure of addressing the All Party Parliamentary Group for Energy Studies (and was delighted to be confirmed as the newest member of the PGES Executive Council). Along with Richard Norris from Pandreco and Mike Lakin from Envoi, we discussed the real-life challenges with net zero, in our presentation, “The Maths of Net Zero”.
Richard described our global energy needs, and the on-going requirement for oil & gas exploration and production if economic shocks are to be avoided, while I focused on the domestic position – my regular readers might recognise some of the themes!
The slides from the entire session will soon be available on the PGES website, and my script is below.
The Maths of Net Zero
Ensuring a smooth and fair transition
Richard has just taken us through the big picture globally about some of the key risks relating to a disorganised approach to net zero. I’d like to look closer to home at some of the implications for the GB energy market.
I would like to address three important areas:
- The need for good data and well founded assumptions;
- The need to understand consumers who will be key to the transition; and
- The need to avoid unintended consequences.
The importance of good data and well founded assumptions
The importance of good data have been very evident over the past year in the context of covid, and this equally applies to energy policy.
A lot of claims are made about the energy transition, and those with the loudest voices are not always the most informed. As John Kerry recently reminded us – some of the technologies which will be necessary for securing net zero have yet to be invented, and this is clear when we scratch the surface and see how many of the net zero pathways rely on carbon capture and storage.
Fans point to CCS projects already running successfully, but closer inspection tells us that there is not one single large scale CCS project anywhere in the world that does not rely on hydrocarbon fuel production or processing for its economics. CCS is viable for enhanced oil recovery and methane processing – it has so far not been viable for coal power generation, with only two projects both beset by technical problems, and it has not yet been invented for gas generation where the physics are harder and the parasitic loads greater.
Other cheerleaders point to electricity systems powered by 100% renewables, but the only places to achieve this to date are either very small, or have a specific resource such as geothermal energy which sets them apart. In Britain, with its very large seasonal demand swings, the absence of bulk seasonal energy storage makes 100% renewables a technical impossibility unless a significant demand reduction is required. But I hardly think there will be many votes in sending us back to pre-industrialised levels of energy consumption!
Even seemingly straightforward aims such as closing coal power stations are not without problems. Despite the hype about “coal-free days” in summer, there were still times last winter when over 10% of electricity demand was met by coal.
We saw significant market tightness last winter, caused by low nuclear availability, coal exits, the unavailability of the Calon CCGTs and some ad hoc issues with the BritNed interconnector.
When these circumstances coincide with low renewable output…think about those cold, clear winter days when the air is sharp and icy – there is no wind, and as the sun sets before the evening peak, there is minimal solar, the outcome is periods of high, spiky and volatile electricity prices…the average day-ahead price last winter was £55 /MWh but we saw prices hitting £300 /MWh and balancing mechanism and imbalance prices going as high as £4,000 /MWh.
With coal closing and the aging nuclear fleet struggling – EDF has announced the early closures of three of its nuclear power stations and the future of the remainder of the AGR fleet is in doubt, and with Hinkley Point C delayed to mid-2026, we are heading for a winter capacity crunch, and while blackouts are not particularly likely, periods of high and volatile prices are.
But the other key issue with coal closure is that of offshoring. It’s all very well congratulating ourselves on closing our domestic coal fired power generation when we import goods to the value of 2.3% of GDP from China, which accounts for 53% of global coal fired electricity production and is still growing its coal fleet – China has 88 GW of new coal plant under construction and a total of 247 GW in development. Britain’s peak electricity demand was 47 GW last winter to put that into context.
So it’s essential that energy policy is based on the right metrics and real, verifiable data. And it’s also important that those data are in fact verified.
A good example of a policy based on data that were not verified is the retail price cap: in 2016 the Competition & Market Authority claimed that the large energy suppliers were making £1.4 billion of excess profits, and as a result, Parliament passed the legislation capping standard variable energy tariffs.
I remember reading an interview at the time with Ian Conn who challenged this claim, and thinking that, well, the chief executive of Centrica would say that! But my second thought was that it was in fact fairly easy to check. So I had a look at the Consolidated Segmental Statements the Big 6 suppliers were required to produce, and discovered that collectively in the previous year the Big 6 had made just short of £1 billion in total profits from their retail energy businesses. In fact the CMA never provided any explanation of its claim.
Since then both established, large suppliers and challenger suppliers have cited the price cap as creating problems in their businesses, and it has certainly added to Ofgem’s workload at the expense of other projects. However it is unclear that consumers are receiving any benefit as the cap continues to rise and tariffs are closely clustered around it.
Consumers must be understood and treated fairly
Having the right information about consumers is vital when designing effective energy policies.
The graphic illustrates the extent of these changes in the net zero compliant scenarios, with either a radical reduction in energy use or a still significant reduction paired with a switch from methane to hydrogen.
Few commentators believe that consumers will be willing to make major sacrifices in support of climate objectives, yet the current thrust of energy policy, particularly around domestic consumption and heating, will require significant consumer input, which may be beyond the capabilities of many people.
It is very important to keep in mind that consumers are not all the same, and crucially, that they do not all look like the people that occupy Parliament.
To give just a few key statistics:
- 50% of energy consumers have never switched supplier despite knowing they can;
- 5% of British adults have never used the internet, and a further 6% are “lapsed” users, ie they haven’t used the internet in the past year;
- 21% of adults live with a disability;
- 4% of adults have very poor literacy skills, while 17 million adults, equivalent to 49% of the working age population, have the numeracy skills expected of a primary school child;
- 14% of British households live in fuel poverty; and
- A third of British householders do not own their own homes.
This means that a great many British adults face very real challenges in being active participants in the energy transition, and assuming that consumers will organise themselves to acquire more efficient and/or more flexible energy assets and then operate them optimally is unrealistic.
To counter this, energy policy should seek to incentivise enabling business models, in particular energy-as-a-service where companies provide a range of new services to consumers. For example, a new heating system could be bundled with electricity supply and optimisation with the capital costs of the system being amortised over an agreed timeframe. Consumers would set their desired comfort levels, and the energy services provider would operate the heating system to provide this at the lowest cost.
Care should also be taken to ensure that consumers are not encouraged to act in ways which may be harmful to their wellbeing. Households living in fuel poverty already face choices between heating and eating, and it is important that in a world of time-of-use tariffs, low-income households are not discouraged from cooking a hot dinner.
It is also important to keep in mind that fire services consistently advise against running appliances such as washing machines at night due to the risk of fire, yet there is an assumption with time-of-use tariffs that consumers will be encouraged to do exactly that as overnight electricity prices are lower. Since low income households are overwhelmingly more likely to use older, cheaper and less safe appliances, care must be taken not to encourage them into actions that could cause them real harm.
Energy policy is already highly regressive, pushing the costs of de-carbonisation disproportionally onto already disadvantaged consumers. If net zero ambitions are to be achieved, this is not only impractical it risks creating a significant voter backlash which would threaten the desired outcomes.
Energy pricing is not the only source of unfairness in the energy transition. There are increasing objections to the implementation of Low Traffic Neighbourhoods and other changes to roads and pavements, several of which are being challenged through the courts.
This picture provides a good illustration of the point – installing EV charging facilities that block the only available pavement space forcing wheelchair users and parents with pushchairs into the road, and creating a hazard for the visually impaired are manifestly unfair and discriminatory.
As someone who lives with a disability I can assure you that life is already challenging enough without well meaning but ill-thought through policies making things harder. And stories about emergency services being delayed on calls, priests struggling to get to hospitals to administer the last rites, and roads being clogged with traffic while newly created cycle lanes sit empty and unused will only increase the opposition to such schemes with the risk that sensible projects are rejected.
Avoiding unintended consequences
Which leads into my final point which is the need to avoid unintended consequences when designing the policies that underpin the energy transition
As noted previously, energy pricing has strongly regressive elements, but now those policy choices are actively impeding other policy objectives. The decision to recover the costs of the transition through electricity prices has resulted in electricity prices being far higher than gas prices, but now that electrification is increasingly seen as necessary for the de-carbonisation of both heating and transport there is a growing realisation that persuading people to switch to high-priced electricity is going to be a major challenge.
The reason this method of cost recovery was chosen was a belief that the polluter should pay, but this has unfairly penalised low income consumers who lack the resources for the reasons mentioned earlier to acquire more efficient appliances or reduce heat losses on their homes.
And this whole question of home improvements is currently being tied to the Energy Performance Certificate, with low understanding of what the EPC actually is. Time and again, policy documents refer to the EPC as an energy efficiency measure. It isn’t. It is explicitly only a cost measure, calculating the theoretical cost of heating a house assuming it is in perfect condition with certain assumed comfort levels; and it is based on a methodology that hasn’t been updated in decades.
The methodology has several crucial flaws:
- The EPC assumes buildings are in perfect condition so broken double glazed windows score more points than perfect single glazed windows despite having higher heat losses;
- The EPC ignores features of buildings the assessor cannot see, so if under-floor insulation is present but not exposed for inspection, it receives no credit;
- EPC reports often contain recommendations that are impossible to meet eg installation of external cladding on listed buildings;
- Some recommendations create adverse effects: cavity wall insulation creates moisture bridges leading to condensation and mold;
- The EPC is a passive exercise which does not measure actual heat losses from buildings. Thermal imaging testing is not included, but should be; and finally
- The EPC penalises electric heating heavily because it is more expensive than gas, unless certain expensive models of air-source heat pumps are used (and ASHP have a number of disadvantages including noise, low efficiency at low temperatures, the need for larger radiators to maintain comfort levels and often the need for supplementary heating).
This last point is critical – it is very easy to drop your EPC rating by converting from gas to electric heating. Last year we completed the renovation of an old house which had been in a poor state of repair, but despite making significant improvements to the heat loss envelope, the fact we switched from gas to electric heating for part of the house dropped the EPC rating from D to F!!
We were also advised in the report to install a wind turbine – impossible since we live in a conservation area, add external cladding – also unlikely to be permitted, and under-floor insulation which we had already installed but as the assessor couldn’t see it he refused to accept it was there despite having receipts and even photographs to prove its existence.
The capital cost of the suggested improvements collectively could take up to 56 years to repay at the saving rate quoted in the report. Who on earth would pay even £20,000 for a possible £800 a-year saving, never mind £46,000!?
I was pretty annoyed by this and I only had the house rated out of interest, but if I wanted to rent it out my first step would be to put the gas heating back in where we took it out and we’d be immediately back at a D, despite this being the exact opposite of current policy objectives.
Linking mortgages and the ability to sell or rent properties to having better EPC ratings, will be completely counter-productive unless the EPC methodology is radically overhauled. A very simple way to do this would be to measure actual heat losses and rate buildings on that basis, making the EPC independent of any particular heating technology. A separate emissions rating could be applied if desired, but the fairness of this needs careful consideration when many households have little choice over the energy available to them.
Another potential area of difficulty is with the drive towards electric vehicles. Every developed country in the world now has similar ambitions, but there is a growing realisation that EVs rely on scarce minerals of which there may not be enough to go round.
There is less awareness of the other harms of EVs: the extraction and processing of lithium and cobalt create significant pollution of water sources, and the amounts of water required are already leading to water disputes in south America. Mines are often located in regions with weak environmental and social controls and there are issues with the use of child labour in some areas.
Pursuing net zero at the expense of clean water, and ethical labour practices is not consistent with either sustainability or general decency, and as awareness of these issues grows there is a risk of a policy reversal similar to the one seen with diesel cars.
It’s very easy to be hyper focused on the de-carbonisation leg of the energy trilemma, which, despite Greg Clarke’s assertions to the contrary, is very much still relevant. If energy is not affordable, voters may reject certain approaches and might even rebel against the entire net zero objective – the Brexit vote could be seen as instructive in this context. And, while we generally take security of supply for granted, when power outages occur we are reminded that whatever the dangers of climate change might be, power failures can cost lives immediately, and indeed, cold homes are absolutely linked with higher winter mortality.
But the main risks we face are not from blackouts, they are from high and volatile prices. Price volatility is difficult for businesses to manage, and the costs of doing so are passed through, along with the high prices, to consumers.
Achieving net zero in under 30 years from today will require major changes to everyday life for the entire population. If the ambition is to maintain public support and be successfully achieved, the transition needs to be as painless as possible and should not impose unrealistic burdens on consumers, either in terms of the cost of energy or the way in which consumers access energy.
Making sure policy is founded on good data, works for all consumers, not just the affluent and engaged, and avoids unintended consequences will be essential for success.
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I wrote about winter 2020 prices here, and more details on the issues with Energy Performance Certificates can be found here.
Good article/ commentary on current initiatives vis-a-vis the “real world” consumers
Congratulations Kathryn on your new appointment!
A corollary to your observation on the EPC methodology:
Several years ago we tried to help ensure house valuations took into account the cashflow created by having solar panels on the roof. Despite many having clear evidence of FiT income, this was rebuffed on the basis that (i) valuers cannot be expected to distinguish a solar thermal panel from a photovoltaic one and (ii) house valuations are done on comparables – e.g. what nearby houses have sold for – so at best solar panels on the roof could result in a valuation deduction (“they are ugly”) rather than a premium (“they make money”). Apparently populating a simple DCF is too complicated for valuers.
One to partly contrast your position:
Western Canada this year suffered extreme temperatures typical to the Middle East and people, animals and plants died. Shocked meteorologists are adjusting climate models because it was not predicted, but it also seems it could have / can still just as easily happen in the UK rather than Canada. Imagine the effect of a 50degC heat dome over the UK for a week – not just on people but on strategic infrastructure such as power lines, roads, water, etc. Texas showed what price volatility an extreme weather event can generate…
The urgency to decarbonise is extreme – what is missing is to fully reflect external costs in the price of energy. Affordability is a completely separate and political issue that should not be conflated with energy pricing. Fuel poverty is not a consequence of energy pricing, but a direct result of society choosing to inadequately support people that are in need. Other than political choices, there is nothing technically preventing society being exposed to the true cost of energy (so as to drive rational behaviour) whilst simultaneously offsetting these additional costs with additional means-tested support payments. I’d agree with you that voters would be right to reject increased energy prices without a commensurate increment to support payments, but that would not address the bigger problem.
IMHO the focus should be on mitigating a clear and present (and existential) danger, starting at home before looking at other countries, and resolutely ensuring that concurrent political choices improve and then ensure social justice.
I don’t really agree with your comment on climate. “Unusual” weather events are actually not that unusal such as snow in the UK in May, and any noteworthy weather is immediately lept on as evidence of climate change – it is far too soon to make any conclusion one way or the other about this summer’s “heat dome” phenomenon.
So I disagree with an urgent need to de-carbonise and think there should be more thought about mitigation than prevention. Unreliable energy supplies pose a much greater immediate danger than climate change, and if you look at the detail from the IPCC, even it sees climate change in terms of decades and not years/months.
Also, increasing fuel poverty and social injustice domestically will achieve nothing if other countries (eg China) continue to expand highly polluting activities (and ones such as coal-fired generation which create immediate health harms through PPMs rather than just CO2).
A s far as I can see only massive inverstment in nuclear generation has any chnace of acheiving net zero. But to do this the safety requirments on nuclear construction, which are excessive, woukld need to be reduced. And there would be accidents. The only way that this could come about is if rennewables are manisfestly seen to have failed. Which is very depressing.
I agree and would like to see new nuclear (ABWR not EPR) being directly subsidised…
Congratulations on the appointment; and an outstanding presentation, let’s hope the message starts to get through.
I also agree with both your follow-up comments. It will be interesting to see if RAB gets off the ground for new nuclear. If only someone would actually start building SMRs many countries might follow. Potential opportunity there for RR. My instinct, though, is that Chinese built and financed Hualong One APWRs might be a better technical option in the UK, apart for the problem of “anti-Chinese” sentiments.
The problem isn’t so much anti Chinese sentiments, but rather Chinese intentions which seem to centre on making as much of the world as possible dependent on and therefore beholden to China. Of course, we have that in spades with the push for renewables and EVs, with their dependence on Chinese controlled resources (cobalt, neodymium, increasingly copper and lithium, cheap solar from Uighur slaves etc.). Hualong is not proven technology, and certainly not to Western standards – it’s a Fuqing risk. I’d rather go for Japanese or Korean designs that have a proven track record. It’s certainly time we kicked EPRs (with the Chinese sweetheart financing deals) into the long grass. There is no sign they will ever be competitive, and every sign that they will be permanently problematic.
The RR offering looks interesting on paper – if they can get through the ONR bottleneck and if they really have got costs down to the claimed £1.8bn for a 60 year life on a 470MW plant. But it won’t be with us in volume for at least 15 years I would guess.
I agree with this. The Chinese National Intelligence Laws make reliance on Chinese technology in critical infrastructure a risk which is simply not necessary to take. Particluarly when none of the European EPRs has even opened yet after decades and billions spent. ABWRs are a better bet all round.
Looking at the FES and other net zero projections, all compliant pathways rely heavily on CCS / hydrogen / BECCS none of which is proven yet and more interconnectors / more nuclear which while not unproven cannot be assumed to be built. On that basis I’d probably sooner put money on SMRs which have at least a degree of track record in military propulsion than some of the alternatives.
Congratulations. It’s a relief to know that a few sane voices are actually managing to get through to parliamentarians and tell them a few home truths. Perhaps you were sufficiently influential to help cause the back pedalling now reported on trying to rip out gas boilers and spend silly amounts on insulation that Boris was supposed to have announced. I know it’s particularly difficult to gauge audience impact from online presentations, but I’d be interested to know how you think you and co-presenters were received. My experience is that some MPs are prepared to engage on particular topics, but very few have what could be described as an overall grasp.
Meantime here’s another security of supply issue:
https://image.vuukle.com/9ffc6604-feed-474e-a82d-c2de2f561502-515cc53d-9d7a-4228-b223-76428912a7fd
OFGEM is running several consultations on plans for more and more interconnectors. One closed end June (on multi-purpose interconnectors – i.e. ones that are also connected to wind farms, allowing the farms direct access to different markets and a subsidy on the cost if the cables are used as an interconnector when winds are low), another tomorrow (on the cap and floor regulatory regime for interconnectors), and 2 more on 28th July on the “social costs” and “wider impacts”. It seems to me they have their heads in the sand (or rather buried somewhere under the North Sea or the Channel), as they are blithely assuming that if there is some shortage that could be fulfilled by an interconnector there will be capacity somewhere to supply it. Meanwhile the idea that exports of surplus wind at negative prices subsidised by British consumers doesn;t seem to have really hit their consciousness, nor does the idea that there might be a general Europe wide dispatchable generation shortage that can’t be covered by demand side response without freezing lots of grannies, nor by batteries that would run flat in half a day. They need to learn some German – Dunkelflaute.
So I challenged the interconnector assumptions on the FES calls this week. NG ESO anticipates significant new interconnector build and believes they will contribute to security of supply, because of different weather patterns and generation mixes in the connected markets.
I pointed out that high pressure weather systems in winter (Dunkenflaute – I love that word!) can sit across N Europe and with most countries working to build out more wind, the generation mixes will converge. So what will happen when those weather systems sit around for weeks at a time (this winter we had something like 17 consecutive days with low wind) and all the connected countries are in the same boat – we could end up exporting and not importing.
The answer was that the timing of our demand peaks is different enough that it won’t matter most of the time, and when it does we will have dispatchable CCGTs with CCS and hydrogen to provide back-up. This seems rather far-fetched to me…
I may have a go at trying to extract data for 2021 from ENTSO-E at some point, which will be interesting I’m sure. Meantime, I probably have already posted this:
https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/QcA5c/1/
showing just how variable Europe scale wind power really is – and giving some idea of Dunkelflaute risk. It’s hardly an extreme year. And that of course is the problem with the studies they’ve commissioned – they don’t really take a look at long run weather data, or if they do, they make assumptions that it won’t be a problem.
Hi Kathryn……so good to learn of your opportunity to present concerns to the PGES.
Sound data, Understanding users, No surprises needs to be voiced at the highest level.
Sure Watt Logic is fertile ground to harvest real feedback as reflected in an excellent presentation.
I don’t agree with previous comments supporting nuclear generation.
Inflexible but well matched as intended, in the base load part of the demand curve.
I assumed that nuclear output was sold on contract to major users a year ahead.
A solid block of demand 24/7/365, no surprises there !
No nuclear capacity available where the action is, mid & peak part of demand.
Your presentation covers this very well.
I remain still of the opinion that gas will continue to play an important role in this sector.
My thoughts on the excellent gas network infrastructure in the UK are well known in previous postings.
A plastic hydrogen proof network by 2030 will cater for country wide distribution of green hydrogen or blended gas.
Will this not be a major plus for consumer transition ?
Replace an existing gas boiler with a hydrogen boiler & replacement of steel feeder pipe to main network with plastic.
Latter subject to a government grant as with old lead water pipe replacement currently operating.
I have witnessed some clever solutions ie threading plastic pipes through existing steel pipes, no groundworks.
A hydrogen boiler replacement is likely to be more expensive, but the familiarisation factor could be a great persuader.
Moving on to EV/PHEV public charge points; what a mess.
Would a green hydrogen national network not encourage the pop up of filling points on forecourts ?
Think pumps currently despatching propane.
Could this halt the sleep walk to expensive EV ownership encouraged by Westminister ?
Leading global auto. manufacturer Toyota are sticking with hybrid & hydrogen (Mirai) models.
Sure they could produce a world leading EV now but prefer not to.
The Mirai is much favoured but just 15 filling points around London says it all.
I have recently moved to a new build high end gated block of 50 apartments.
Great secure ground floor car park with 50 spaces.
A 2 way EV charging pedestal is located on a small visitors outdoor car park.
Access is mostly blocked by visitors cars, as EV ownership grows so does the problem.
Attempts to work up a scheme for self funding individual charge points has proved problematic.
Communal living is okay, but trying to obtain a consensus is a nightmare.
The property management rep. tells me they manage many apartment blocks & non have individual EV charge points.
As intimated above, a real mess.
Barry Wright Lancashire.
If there is much hope at all for some sort of vaguely green hydrogen it has to be nuclear powered, with the nuclear power being run as baseload (i.e. at high capacity factors) to get the costs down. You can get a good idea of the economic drivers by looking at back of the envelope calculations for RR SMRs. Costs are heavily dependent on financing costs and plant utilisation. If the former can be kept below 7% and the latter above 80% then LCOE comes out at under £40/MWh, which is almost certainly competitive with offshore wind with none of the disadvantages of intermittency, and the plus point of potentially having some waste heat to preheat water for electrolysis, which increases efficiency. You can treat the electrolysis operation as interruptible demand to greater or lesser degree, which creates peak lopping supply for the grid while leaving nuclear output unaltered. The resultant gas is still going to look expensive, but not as cripplingly expensive as under the hare-brained schemes coming out of the CCC – at least if you cost them properly. You are still left with enormous requirements for storage, which are going to add a whole deep layer of cost and other problems.
I think that while a hydrogen-methane blend is not too difficult to do, a switch to pure hydrogen for domestic supply is much more problematic, with attendant safety problems, extra storage and tripled peak volume delivery requirements that might call for bigger pipes, not smaller ones fed into the existing network, etc.
Still unsure about hydrogen for vehicles, despite the work going on at JCB (who long ago worked out that batteries are really a non-starter for heavy plant that gets used maybe 5,000 hours a year or more). The Mirai remains a very expensive option, and onboard storage is vehicle limiting. I’m getting the impression that vehicle design increasingly assumes that no-one takes much luggage or goes shopping rather than ordering online, or owns any medium or larger sized dogs, as space gets taken up for batteries or hydrogen tankage. Spare tires now seem to be history, despite the fact that our potholed roads all too easily lead to damage.
I hope you find a solution to your future charging problem. It seems not unlikely that underground or covered car parks would be considered too high a fire risk, particularly as some vehicles start to age and their batteries become more dodgy.
Hi IDAU…….sad that your hypothesis wrt to green hydrogen seems somewhat negative.
Lots of interest from global players suggest there is a future as a gas or fuel.
The flavour of things can be gleaned from an excellent BBC R4 programme “The Bottom Line”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000t6m1
Purple hydrogen is produced from nuclear generated electricity; doubt the purist would settle for that.
A digression in my comment serves to bring to the fore a clean energy dilemma.
The Eden Project has submitted detailed plans for Eden North here in Morecambe.
Interesting to know how they propose to power the site.
Eden South in Cornwall is favoured with suitable strata offering a geothermal clean heat source.
They are doing much work on this; see their web site
Not available in Morecambe which raises an interesting question for the green pioneers.
Propose to raise this at the first opportunity on the following hydrogen based products:
Green hydrogen using the output already available from the Barrow & Walney wind farms.
Purple hydrogen from Heysham 1 & 2 nuclear plants also available locally.
Yellow hydrogen from the considerable solar gain in the vast indoor spaces Eden propose to build.
Termed bottling the sun is proved technology & widely used, even in Scandinavia ☀️
As you comment it is possible to safely charge the existing steel gas network with a 30/70 hydrogen/gas blend.
The BBC programme I refer to covers this well using the term “ripe low hanging fruit” ready to be gathered now.
Finally communal living even in high end developments has its problems.
A home EV charging point adjacent to my parking space remains a far off dream.
Seems the QS’s had their way on this stripping out a bit of infrastructure that would have provided the option for a self funded installation by residents.
Probably stick with hybrid for now.
Barry Wright Lancashire.
The starting problem is that green hydrogen is about 10 times the cost of methane currently. Now, you can dream of ways of making it if you don’t care what the cost is. But it is really always going to struggle to be an economically sensible choice. Don’t trust anything that doesn’t properly discuss the costs – it’s a fairy tale. Walney wind farm is being paid £170/MWh. Intermittent green hydrogen is about 40% efficient. So that makes the hydrogen 2.5 times as costly as the electricity. That’s £425/MWh wholesale. Still want to buy it?
I’m planning an update on my commentary on hydrogen. There has been some interesting work on both the domestic safety case and the necessary CCS with some promising 95% capture / 85% (I think) efficiency technologies emerging. These might work if we are willing to drop the net zero absolutism that currently characterises much of the discussion, and I remain more persuaded by blending than any other approach.
Economics will remain a problem for all the net zero pathways, which I have a big problem with. Given the global irrelevance of Britain’s carbon emissions I struggle to see how making energy harder to access and more expensive is in any way ethical, given already high levels of fuel poverty. I would much prefer to see a focus on proven technologies, and, given that a need for baseload electricity generation isn’t going away, I favour new nuclear to replace the aging AGR fleet and coal. Methane is certain to remain the marginal fuel of choice and policy headaches will emerge when people realise that unabated gas generation is a pipe dream.
Hi Kathryn & IDAU……don’t wish to get bogged down in this but greener hydrogen is moving apace.
A snapshot today becomes very quickly outdated in this fast moving space.
Many world leading global companies are aligning themselves in the sector.
Have they got it wrong ?
Some have years of experience in the use of grey hydrogen, making them ideal candidates for transition.
Tweaking the technology leading to greener options seems a natural move IMO.
Current & future costing of greener hydrogen production feature in BBC R4’s Bottom Line prog. referred to previously.
Further indicators:
The Australian Government has prioritised hydrogen as one of the central pillars of its Technology Investment Roadmap, with a target of producing hydrogen for under $2 per kilogram (excluding the cost of storage and transportation), which would make it competitive with fossil-fuel based hydrogen. There are currently 97 projects under way ($62.2b). Presumably using solar produced electricity/electrolyzer technology. Private companies are moving into the space with exciting initiatives.
Don’t understand the technology but can’t help being impressed by the news that they intend to become a major exporter of clean hydrogen using ammonia (NH3) as a shipping fuel, which is easier & cheaper to store & transport. Ammonia has many current uses, including in the production of fertiliser, pharmaceuticals & explosives.
Similar is also being explored in the middle east deploying sodium as a shipping fuel for yellow hydrogen exports ??
Major global player INEOS are a corner stone investor (£23m) in a new investment trust HydrogenOne about to be launched on the LSE next week.
Looking forward Kathryn your take on this in the forthcoming commentary.
Still remain sceptical re green targets here in the UK.
Can we afford them ?
Barry Wright Lancashire.
I think a lot of companies are dabbling with hydrogen to demonstrate green credentials – £23m for Ineos (revenues of $61 billion) is small beans – and governments see it as one of the enabling techologies for net zero (ie are worried without it net zero might not be possible). If policymakers decided not to aim for net zero then it’s unclear how much of the current interest in hydrogen would continue.
While at the moment everyone is gung-ho for net zero, I wonder how strong the commitment will be in the next 5 years as it becomes clear to voters/taxpayers both how expensive it’s going to be and how disruptive. At that point there may be pressure to drop back to a more modest target by taking into account the relative insignificance of GB emissions on a global scale. If that happens, there may be less pressure to end the use of methane, rendering a lot of the potential markets for hydrogen redundant.
Hi Kathryn……take your point re hydrogen, but we are currently burning an awful lot of gas.
A finite resource, exacerbated by the failure of public support for UK fracking projects.
However I do think the Australian projects are a significant indicator.
The middle east projects using solar generated electricity to produce yellow hydrogen also encouraging.
They are proposing to export using sulphur* as a shipping fuel.
With a faltering nuclear programme & diminishing gas reserves do we fly in the face of brexit & increasingly look to mainland europe for support ?
More risk of failure than Chinese technology & EPR’s IMO.
The cavalier approach to net zero from naive policy makers who need to listen more to the voices of reason seem in short supply; keep up the good work Kathryn.
*Apologies for the error in my previous posting referring to sodium as a shipping fuel.
Barry Wright Lancashire.
Strong agreement on the problems with EPC, I understand wanting to keep the assessments cheap but what they’ve actually done is created a meaningless assessment. There are similar problems with part L assessments for new-builds which are only required to be carried out on a developer specified subset of new developments. Since the thermal properties of buildings in practice are heavily dependent on the quality of workmanship, this results in developments passing assessment even when a substantial number of the houses in them have substandard thermal performance due to cold bridging and poorly fitted seals.
A difficulty I’ve had is communicating the difference between on the one hand: EVs and shallow decarbonisation of electrical generation and on the other: domestic heating decarbonisation.
In the former case, the performance of the technologies is improving rapidly and one can forecast convergence points where EVs are actually cheaper than ICE / the LCOE of PV is less than that of thermal at least in some scenarios. Ok, this does depend on the high tax on fuel but people are already used to that so perceptually it still works. Policy makers have in a sense been spoiled by this easy stuff though and now expect to see similar convergence curves for domestic heating.
The problem is that natural gas based heating is brilliant (apart from global warming). The fuel is cheap and easy to move, the technology to turn it into heat is efficient and cheap to make and to service. It is therefore really difficult for any competing domestic heating technology to converge with it.
That’s especially true for existing housing stock. As you note, the conversion costs for a property to be compatible with low temperature heating are very high even where they are possible. The modal British house is not in a conservation area but it is a mid-terrace, brick-walled house with moderately thick cavity walls which have been insulated at some point, loft insulated, and double glazed. Many of these houses have had all their low hanging thermal performance fruit comprehensively plucked but still would be difficult to keep warm with an ASHP (for which they may not have space). External wall insulation will work but installing it properly is very labour intensive and improperly installed will cause damp problems. It is also non trivial to put into terraced and semi-detached properties one at a time because the walls no longer line up when you put 100mm of insulation on property but not another.
Hi…….plucked at random from my daily readers letter page yesterday:
“Consumer replacing a 20 year old domestic gas boiler queries with his installer a new air source heat pump.
Quoted £10k plus £2k to upgrade existing radiators.
Advised that heat pump systems struggle to deliver at lower temperatures (10 degrees C).
Needless to say the customer elected to install a new modern high end gas boiler at £2k.
Finally commenting that 1kwh of gas is 20% the cost of 1kwh electricity”
Multiply the above by thousands of consumers in the run up to 2030 ????
Transition was never going to be easy, & don’t get me started re EV charging points.
Barry Wright Lancashire.